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Dec 8, 2004: Extensive notes and instructions for flashing in a variety of situations can be found here, courtesy of sprinter:

Instructions For Flashing Pc Video Cards, Series 1 (Eg. Radeon 7000 - 9100 AGP)

Instructions For Flashing Pc Video Cards, Series 2 (Eg. Radeon 9200)

Instructions For Flashing Pc Video Cards, Series 3 (Eg. Radeon 9800 Pro)

Instructions For Flash Pc Video Cards, Series 4 (Geforce 2, 3 and FX)


On Apr 18, 2002, Riba writes:
"I just talked to a friend of mine. Last weekend he got all the 2MX cards he could find on a local market, and tried every one of them in his Mac to see which ones work. I think this will be useful information for all of us, so here it goes...these do work:

Hercules Prophet MX 32
Asus V7100

The rest did not. What he found out is the fact that if you want it to work, it _must_ have 32mb and not 64, and must comply to MX400 specs. The two above do. You must also have the latest firmware installed on your Cube to use these cards"

Oct 11 2002: Underclocking a PC GeForce 2MX Graphics Card For use in a G4 Cube without a Fan. From Xlr8yourmac.com
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/PC_geforce2MX_in_Cube.html


TJM shares this in the forums:

"There are a few sellers(eBay) passing off flashed PC cards as Mac parts. While the sellers might not be outright lying it's definitely dishonest, IMOHO. Your question caught my eye since many of the PC GeForce 2MX cards that can be flashed have 64MB of RAM. In fact some of them don't even have to be flashed to work."

Some eBay examples:

GeForce 2MX
Flashed PC GeForce 2MX | (screenshot here in | case ebay listing has expired - sold for $109)
He/she has sold a lot of them and people do seem to be happy. What you don't know...
Same card being sold on eBay as the PC part it is. Look closely at the picture. | (screenshot here in | case ebay listing has expired - sold for $26)
Same card (Chaintech A-MX40) retails for $37.

GeForce3
Flashed GeForce 3 for $220(ouch!) | (screenshot here in | case ebay listing has expired - sold for $220)
What the flasher paid for it($55). | (screenshot here in case ebay listing has expired) That's kind of funny since I was going to buy one and try to flash it for my Cube. One hell of a profit margin eh?
The buyers do seem happy with them. Course I'd give great customer service too if I was quadrupling my money.

RedEclipseTurbo, the eBay seller being referenced here, selling the flashed GF3 cards, has submitted a reply to the above:

Laurie, I just wanted to point out that the above example of my supposed profit margin is just not true! I do indeed sell flashed PC GF3 cards because the Apple GF3 cards are selling for $350-$400 lately because they are no longer produced and are impossible to find. The $220 is a bargain for a tested and working solution as that model has both VGA and DVI ports which allows you to hook up a less expensive 17" LCD display for around $650 total versus an Apple GF3 card with Apple 17" display for $1050-$1100! Even if you want to use an ADC display the total of the card and adapter is still around $300-$320 which beats out the going rate of the Apple GF3 cards.

The card you are indicating that I bought for $55 turned out to be a GF3 Ti200 and it certainly doesn't work in a mac. I was going to try to find some other brands that would be short enough to fit inside the cube as the retail sources are all but gone these days. All of the cards that work in the cube were bought in the $100-$150 range brand new in a retail box. The brand is a 180mm long PNY technologies with a black PCB board, not the green PCB you have pictured. In the future please consider sending me a quick note before posting something like this as it doesn't make sense to post inaccurate information without a simple verification.

Some people have brought it to my attention that by driving an Apple display using a DVI to ADC adapter you are easing the stress placed on the cube's 205w power supply which is especially important when considering Powerlogix 1.2Ghz processors and the like down the road.

I've sold over 20 of these to various Cube and Tower owners and every single person has been very satisfied as can be seen by my excellent ebay feedback rating. I will take back any card that doesn't work out for my customers and every card is brand new and tested for G4 compatibility. While the free advertisement is nothing I should complain about, I would imagine that everyone reading your excellent FAQ would appreciate accurate information.

Chris Wirth
RedEclipseTurbo on ebay
GeForce3@rochetser.rr.com

Detailed discussion of flashing GeForce 3 cards for use in Cubes, in the Forums:

here and here

So there you have it - both sides of the story. Please use this information to make an informed purchase :) 

Low-cost PC GeForce 2 MX success... flash, add heatsink, mod faceplate, plug and play. From c0nsumer (aka Steve), in the Forums:

Within the last couple of weeks, I've modified a couple of GeForce 2 MX video cards for use in two different cubes. One was a Dell OEM card I obtained used from eBay for $18 that originally utilized no heatsinks. The other is a Gainward retail card, also obtained used from eBay, this one for ~$20. For the Dell card I made some heatsinks and applied them with Arctic Silver Thermal Adheasive. Both cards had their backplanes modified to fit in the cube, additional threaded connectors (read: filed and epoxied nuts) added to secure the card to the back of the cube.

Pictures of the GeForce 2 MX modifications are available here

Let me know if you have any questions about these mods. Oh, and of course, it was requred that the cards be flashed with a Mac BIOS in order for them to function, but once flashed, they work great under OS X 10.1.x and 10.2.x. -Steve

Here are some links with good info about flashing, if you want to try it yourself:

Flashing a Radeon 8500
http://www.coffeehaus.com/radeon8500.html
http://atimacunderground.freeservers.com/instructions. html
http://www.cybercoment.com/macgeforce.htm
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?threadid=52779
http://bbs.xlr8yourmac.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000100.html

Flashing a GF2MX
http://xlr8yourmac.com/graphics/flash_PC_geforce2mx. html
http://www.cybercoment.com/macgeforce.htm
http://bbs.xlr8yourmac.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001037.html

Flashing a PC Radeon 7000 AGP
McCoy conjured this up:

"Why would someone like to have the Radeon 7000 in a cube, you might ask. well, it is the only card that runs *COOL* AND supports QuartzExtreme. plus it has S-Video out. i took the rom from the radeom 7000 PCI and flashed it to a PC Radeon 7000 AGP (Radeon 7000 was never available for AGP-slots in macintoshes). i'm not finished testing it, but it looks promising at the moment, no problems in OS9 so far. oh, and it is necessary to move the DC-DC in order to install the Radeon 7000 AGP. Update: it seems to run fine in OSX as well. huge list of possible resolutions. the modifications needed are the same as for the Radeon 8500. and did i mention that this card runs COOOL? "

This mod covered extensively in this Forum Thread - with step-by-step instructions here: http://www.cubeowner.com/forums//index.php?s=... entry8272




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